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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Oct 27, 2007 11:16:14 GMT -5
Dear brothers Above news(reply 106) may appear disappointing to you.
But after following analysis you will find, that in within some time the movement will gain momentum, after resolution of conflicts in gurjar leaders.
The main conflict in gurjar leaders are
group1. , CORE COMMITTEE, anti Govt. political leaders Prahalad gunjal, Atarsingh bhadana
Group2. “Gurjar Arakkshan Sangharsh Samiti’ samiti has support of Govt, Col Bainsla with Non political leaders
Group1.anti Government, CORE COMMITTEE
have wide central level all India support ,and believe in common decision, which consists of gurjar leaders of different political parties , , different political social religious leaders from Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Hariyana, UP, Delhi, ,Gujarat, Maharastra,Himachal ,J&K and all over India Due to mostly political leaders in , CORE COMMITTEE , the unanimous Main leader is to be elected for future planning, under which all political parties leader may work together, Because this will be very difficult to different par tie’s political leader to support a Particular party leader unanimously. These decisions may be taken in in todays meeting by Members of core committee held today in Jaipur
1. Prahalad gunjal BJP MLA Most prominent and popular Gurjar leader, after Col .Bainsla,in Gurjar reservation issue ,With atarsingh Bhadana he was suspended By BJP Party .has retaliated much from Govt.side ,for raising his voice against Govt,
2. Atarsingh Bhadana BJP MLA 3rd most popular gurjar leader in Gurjar reservation ,companian of prahalad gunjal
3. Gopichnd gurjar Ex MLA BJP very active enthusiastic young leader now speaker of core committee
4. Govind Singh Ex Minister in Cong I Govt
5. Sujan Singh Jila pramukh Jhalawar
6. Ramchand saradhana BJP MLA
7 Hari singh mahua .Ex MLA Senior gurjar leader, chief sachetaak assembly congress govt
8. Vikaram singh Professor in Rajasthan University and working for gurjar reservation as social worker about 10 years
9. Devakinandan kaka senior Gurjar leader
10. Ramgopal guard ex Jila pramukh Jaipur District (Main gurjar leader of gurjar reservation issue of andolan before 2006) and senior leader
11. Dr Roop singh MD very intelligent physician, well mannered running his own hospital at Bhiwadi faith full to Col Bainsla and speaker of andolan issue
12. Mukhiya gurjar, senior gurjar leader
13. Bijendra singh soopa Cong MLA and other senior leader
14 Shayer dhabhai,
15. Arjunsingh kashana,
16. Ganesh lamodi
17. Mahant bhudev das
Special invited members are
1. Sachin Pilot MP congress Dausa 2. Rama pilot MLA congress 3. Avtarsingh Bhadana MP from Hariyna 4. Sukhaveer singhJaun puriya in All India gurjar organization main leader and powerful in social, economic and political back graund, respected gurjar leader
5. Nathusingh gurjar Ex MLA and actor
6. Hargyan singh MLA BJP
7. Dr Jitendra singh EX minister in cong Govt
8. smt Mallidevi Sikar
Group2“Gurjar Arakkshan Sangharsh Samiti’.with support of Government Has now only non political leaders consisting of four military officers ,and four other prominent Gurjar leaders from east Rajasthan, has make a claim to have support of other 50 non political leaders with all community.Beleives in Col Bainsla strategy as a single leader,it is very difficult to run a movement without political support, because in gurjar society at present there is no social net work like political leaders network, More over there are little experienced and less interested persons remains in society if Gurjar political leaders are excluded to run movement.
1. President Col Bainsla (retd) struggling for Gurjar reservation issue since retirement from service, leading the Gurjar andolan “Rail Roko andolan at Hindaun city” since, September 2006, made compromise with Govt at that time, and became favorite to Govt strategy hence used by Govt when trouble arises.ColBainsla on his strategy prefers Govt Cooperation rather then be against, had sympathy with Govt for appointing Chopra committee. He was feeling uncomfortable with political leaders, as most of political leaders do not wants to work with Govt cooperation and do not wants to work under one leader .
2. Captain Harprasad Tanwar vice president of samiti
other leaders
3.Capt.Bhimsingh karauli
4. Capt Jagram singh
5. Mahendra singh khedla
6. Atroopsingh tajpur
7. Udal singh penchla
8. Harkesh lapawali
From above analysis we will find that in core committee group there is strong position to work in future,due to network and acceptance
And in “Gurjar Arakkshan Sangharsh Samiti’, the samiti has deficiency of supporters without all Rajasthan network.
The community members may be moved for movement only by network, which is with 1st group, hence if decision for unanimous leader if made the movement will gain momentum.
There is little possibility for resolution of conflicts in between two groups.as these conflicts are started since Jhalawar meeting.and the gap in between is widening.
Tthe nature of undue support to Govt repeatedily arouse suspicion among gurjar leaders for Col Bainslas motive ,as he compromised when andolan was on Height ,When core committee asked him to explain reasons behind it he didnt made any explanation ,in answer he announced to dismiss core committee .
Now the commitee has decided to suspend Col from leadership of reservation andolan and probabaly may elect Mr prahalad gunjal or atarsingh bhadana as next leader
Let’s hope for good news, which may be appear on todays meeting Thanks Yours rambilassingh@yahoo.com
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Post by rmtrgurjar on Oct 28, 2007 16:12:43 GMT -5
hi gurjara friends,
This is just to specify : Saam , daam ,dand, bhed. we have to move with time and get people from other societies/castes with us to lobby. our elders are still applying the wrong policy and not uniting our people. we need to work with strategy: You have to furhter agree with me that much of the jobs today do not need a very high level of intelligence, But only good communication skills (much of which is speaking english only) and good exposure to computers. Now all this is simply not possible for a person born in a remote area. So for first generation to reach upto a level that they can give their childs a privilaged atmosphere, reservation is neccessary. After one generation, reservattion is not needed at all.
It will take time but if properly done like a movement it can be achieved in 5 years.
GO FOR IT MATE. WE DO NOT NEED TO GO ON FOR STRAIGHT AGITATION AND FEEL THE BITTER CONSECUENCES AS WE DID IN 1857( INFACT BENEFICIARIES WERE THE PEOPLE WHO GOT FREEDOM FIGHTERS ARRESTED OR KILLED)
LEARN AND APPLY CHYANAKYA NEETI.
Gotra:chechi RAMAWATAR GURJAR (Rajasthan) STUDENT-SOFT. ENGG. MO.+91-9314244393 rmtrgurjar@yahoo.co.in
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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Oct 29, 2007 13:15:31 GMT -5
Gurjar core committee meeting decision which was held on 27 Oct 2007.
Dear brothers Next news to , previously given news of split in gurjar leaders The meeting which was held in Jaipur' had decided Mr PRAHALAD GUNJAL as a leader of core committee he is BJP MLA from RAMGANJMANDI (district Kota) contituency In present assembly of Rajasthan He was the among two gurjar MLA who was suspended on 10 june 2007 by the Bhartiya janata party leaders, for raising the in favor of gurjar reservation . He was very aggressive when no political party leader nor other community leader raise any voice on death of 26 gurjars during agitation .
In Jhalawar on his aggressive behavior he and Mr Atarsingh bhadana was opposed by Col bainsala and other gurjar BJP leaders.the conflicts in gurjar leaders started that day.On mr Prahalad gunjals comment on Vasundhara raje CM Col bainsala made 100% assurance to community leders.Col bainsala made promise that if Chief minister will send the letter to central Govt, if she will not fulfills the commitment ,you may bury me in soil, in meeting of dhaulpur held to be on 13 september (Con bainala ne kaha, ki vasundhara madam agar3 maheene men 12 september tak vaada poora na kare, to tum mujhe 13 september ko dhaulpur men hone waali meeting men, jaminn ke andar gaddha khod kar gad dena)
The BJP's action came a day after a Gujjar mahapanchayat in Kota adopted a resolution to bar Raje from entering her Jhalawar constituency and the community decided not to vote in favour of the party in the next polls. The resolution was proposed by the two MLAs. Since Bhadana and Gunjal proposed the resolution by voice vote, it amounted to party indiscipline and caused an insult to BJP's legislature party leader Raje,
On 11 september before two day of Dhaulpur meeting the date of Chopra committee was extended, by Rajasthan Govt cleverly, taking Col bainsla in confidence
In Dhaulpur mahapachayat of gurjars about 5 lakh gurjars came from all over India and decided not to accept extension of duration for Chopra Committee .And decided to start non violence jail Bharo Andolan from 2nd octover Gandhi Jayanti .
A core commitee was formed on 12 september, at the residence of Ex MLA jaswant singh gurjar in dhaulpur.to avoid decisions to be taken by single person. Members of committee were nominated 21 in number to take decision on reservation issue.As it was the 2nd ocaision when Con bainsala taken self decision without consulting any other gurjar member about reservation matter .
On the third ocaision Split appeared in Gurjar front as Bainsla calls off mass arrests his decision unexpected due to bypassing of other leaders of core committee and the community such as expelled BJP MLA Prahlad Gunjal and suspended BJP MLA Attar Singh Bhadana who was struggling very hard and was with team of Con bainsalas core committee. They were not expecting the result of movement to be fruitless compromise. .
Several members of the community doubted Bainsla's motive as he went ahead with the dialogue with the state Government in their absence.
as in the given news (on 27 October anti Government, CORE COMMITTEEchave wide central level all India support ,and believe in common decision, which consists of gurjar leaders of different political parties , , different political social religious leaders from Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Hariyana, UP, Delhi, ,Gujarat, Maharastra,Himachal ,J&K and all over India Due to mostly political leaders in , CORE COMMITTEE , the unanimous Main leader is to be elected for future planning, under which all political parties leader may work together, Because this will be very difficult to different par tie's political leader to support a Particular party leader unanimously. These decisions may be taken in in todays meeting byMembers of core committee held today in Jaipur) before meeting I doubted the election of leader by core committee, the selection was successful and was able to provide a dynamic leader .to know more about Mr. PRAHALAD GUNJAL log on to>http://goojar.net/default.aspx Goojar Sabha Website dedicated to ST status for Goojars in Rajasthan.
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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Oct 31, 2007 21:49:49 GMT -5
Mr. PRAHALAD GUNJAL has been elected the leader of gurjar reservation issue unanimously, by all attending members of core committee, it is a good news.Becouse it was very difficult for our most egoistic community, after all we understand our need to be united for welfare of community. We have resolved big issue, congratulation to all readers, and best wishes for 3rd November rally What is the need of Society leader and Politics? The human is social organism he always lived in group (society) and will remain forever. Where there are groups it needs a leader for the organized living and the social welfare .the leader and the group remains with the contract (compromise) where the group provides organized power and support to the leader, in return the leader provides all type of protection, progress, provides programmes for welfare by his able leadership, resolves the internal conflicts in the social group . In the social group leadership is acquired by the process of politics. The Politics is the art of acquiring and maintaining power in a group as a representative so called Leader, the politics is so old that it has been very well programmed into our brains by evolution. It is not limited to human beings only, but it is practiced by most of primates even by most of mammals, they establish social structures and they compete for acquiring power. Most of activity of human life is goal oriented like a playing winning and forgetting of the game. But in the politics the theme of game is never to be changed or finished but the players remains changing. Who performs politics? Every person in society or group, who is not so busy and has some intellect, performs politics to be elected as a leader or leadership is acquired by competent leader. Where the politics is performed? For example where there may be different group are a possible area for politics A. In a locality or in different locality there may be groups leading too different 1. Folower members of same religion may form a group in a . Colony, city, country, continent or internationally as in the form of . Christian,Muslim,Hindu,Boddh,Sikhs,jains,jews,parsis,etc. 2. Member of same caste or sub caste like, Tamils, Brahmins, Yadavs, Bahujan samajs may form a group as like religion 3. On the basis of Economic status there may be union of developed, developing or underdeveloped countries or developed colony compared to non developed living area like slums in urban area. B. there may be organizations on the basis of same locality persons living in 1. Other city, the person of same town Biharies, Rajasthanies, . . . Bengalis, etc in Delhi 2. In the other country like in USA all Indians forms a union. Where . , they may be of different castes, religions or States. C.Within society as, , there may be unions in labor classes, in peasants, in the college students, in businessmen’s, and in industrialists ete. Why politics is required? Studying these interactions, under the headings of sociology and evolutionary psychology, is fascinating, but we have far more important things to do as a species. Historically, politics has had influence over the development of the human species as a whole. The growth of the nation depends on good leadership as it directs overall development of nation. What is ideal leadership? The ancient concept of Ram rajya is ideal for the development of nation .But the ideal is never achieved hence we have to compromise the leadership. Why politics considered bad thing? As a common belief the politics is bad thing because the politicians makes fool the community for their selfish behavior,and may fall at any level leaving morality to achieve ledership, and always been criticized as NAGNAATH or SAANPNATH .the common people remains ignorant to politics as due to common thinking of “KOU HOU NRIP HAMEN KA HAANI, CHERI CHHOD HOUN NA RAANI” . As a common thinking our condition will remain server to other. But this thinking is now challenged by BSP’s and other caste based parties’ unity What can be achieved by politics? In democracy it is the fact, that who is in the power or politics writes his own future .If you are not striving for politics how you can get the fruits of politics. The benefits of politics are partiality based (the ideal imagination from today’s leader to be like ram is foolishness) and limited to only those groups who has command on it. This is the reason why those not benefited blames politics to be hatred thing (ANGOOR KHATTE HAIN, the grapes are sore). What is the history of caste politics in India after freedom? In Indian democracy after freedom there was a era up to 1977 of Nehru family who wrote the history of Brahmins and upper castes, the other backward castes never got a chance to hold the politics .it is said that up to this period 90% of political posts and service class officers were distributed among 10% of Upper caste Brahmins .After 1977 by the Janata Party government under Prime Minister Morarji Desai, Mandal Commission in India was established, in 1979 with a mandate to "identify the socially or educationally backward.” and the rise of other castes started. A decade after the commission gave its report, V.P. Singh, the non Brahmin (Rajput) Prime Minister at the time, tried to implement its recommendations in 1989. The criticism was sharp and colleges across the country held massive protests by upper castes against Mandal Commission. Reservations are all about representation. A group or groups deserve reservation if their representation in the mainstream - in education and jobs - is disproportionately less than its population. Positive discrimination gets moral justification if this lack of representation is due to historical reasons of caste stratification. THE ERA OF CASTE BASED POLITICS “In 1980, the Mandal commission's report affirmed the affirmative action practice under Indian law whereby members of lower castes (known as Other Backward Classes and Scheduled Castes and Tribes) were given exclusive access to a certain portion of government jobs and slots in public universities, and recommended changes to these quotas, increasing them by 27% to 49.5% L R Naik, the only Dalit member in the Commission refused to sign the Mandal recommendations(because dalits got the benefits of reservation un to 1980 since freedom and became political aware for their rights as they enjoyed till date) as he feared that well-to-do OBCs would corner all the benefits of reservation. Now after getting the benefits of reservation, many political parties in India have openly indulged in caste-based votebank politics. Such parties are relying primarily on Backward Classes' support, often in alliance with Dalits and Muslims, rose to power in Indian states The Congress (I) in Maharashtra long relied on OBCs' backing for its political success. Bharatiya Janata Party has also showcased its Dalit and OBC leaders to prove that it is not an upper-caste party. Bangaru Laxman, the former BJP president (2001-2002) was a former Dalit. Sanyasin Uma Bharati, former CM of Madhya Pradesh , who belongs to OBC caste, was a former BJP leader. In 2006 Arjun Singh cabinet minister for MHRD of the UPA government was accused of playing caste politics when he introduced reservations for OBCs in educational institutions all around.” Reference from> Caste politics in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_politics_in_IndiaAfter 1980 most of caste based political parties aroused. In Bihar Laloo Prasad yadav and in Uttar Pradesh Mulayam Singh yadav became the caste based leader as chief ministers due to caste awareness to the politics. The Yadavs achieved 200 fold developments during leadership of caste leaders .In south India the old anti Brahmin DMK regain the power in 1979 second time after1971.and all the Tamilnadu party’s are Tamil based for development(anti brammin i.e. anti to Iyers or iyengars) The BSP was founded by the high-profile charismatic leader Kanshi Ram in 1984. It was formed to chiefly represent Dalits, who are thought by some to be at the bottom of the system, and achieved development of community which was never thought to be possible for dalits.This was achieved by political awareness. Indian National Lok Dal, a Jat based political party in Haryana India, The party president is Om Prakash Chautala. The Jat based party of chadhry Ajit Singh the lodha based party of Uma bharty and many other parties are emerging as a result of awareness in political field.
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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Nov 1, 2007 22:46:44 GMT -5
Good news Chopara Committee will complete the work within duration According to Dainik bhasker news, the Justice Chopara Committee will complete the job up to 15 December, within provided duration and will not demand for further extension. The committee is making inquiry In the matter of the Gurjar reservation issue to be provided as ST status. Justice chopra replied to Govt representative Mr. ram pal jat, BJP party secretary Ramdas aggrawal MPwho were met to him according to demand of gurjers to complete the report within time.
Justice chopra replied that he Govt and Gurjers are providing sufficient support in inquiry, he told that the peripheral visit in various districts to made inquiry will be completed up to 15 November and will submit the report on time up to 15 December, most of districts already visited while the Sawai madhopur, Dausa, Sikar, Kota, and Pali districts are to be visited. He said although he has received Acknowledgements from other tribes but he is concerned about gurjar tribe only and the committee it enquiring about eligibility of gurjers to the ST status. He told that Gurjers has produced 32000 Affidavits, 14625 Reports, and 200 CDs, in support of claim. The committee is also preparing the CDs of their field visit as evidence. Dear brothers this remember this is the Judicial inquiry in the matter provided positive result may not be with hold by any of Govt or opposition of any other community. This is my personal opinion the Gurjar brothers living in remote areas are living in such condition that nobody can imagine, the worst condition is up to the limit that they are living like animal where they had not the shelter to live, Drinking water of same pond with animals, the per capita income is so less that they may not arrange food for two time. The justices are made Justice and may not ignore the things so HOPE FOR THE BEST
In the hope meet you in 3rd Nov, “Gurjar swabhiman rally” yours Dr Rambilas phone no 09929770399 ,9314180633
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Post by Virendra Gurjar on Nov 2, 2007 2:27:35 GMT -5
Dr Rambilas ji aur A.P.Singh ji aap ki gurjar history ki source of knowledge zadardast hai,biradri ko aap ke jaise hi mahaan purushon ki zarurat hai jo biradri ke utthan ke liye bina swarth ke sacchey maan se sewa karna chahte ho JAI BHAGWAAN DEV NARAYAN GURJAR KI
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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Nov 4, 2007 2:14:49 GMT -5
Thank you Mr. Virendra Gurjar
,In this way we can be confident to have pride for community, in real life we need young men like you, who can remember& apply the reading in their life ,not those who read and forget the the lesson.now read the news of gurjar swabhiman rally. Thanks yours rambilas
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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Nov 4, 2007 2:19:28 GMT -5
“GUJAR SWABHIMAN RALLY”, IN DEHLI.
According to Anil sagar New Delhi Dainik bhasker new 3 Nov, there was a huge gathering of gurjers, in Gurjar swabhiman rally, in Delhi.
Gurjar leaders provided indication to start movement all over India starting through Madhya prades, after achieving ST status in Rajasthan.
The gurjar leaders with Con bainsla declared Walking on foot march (Paidal March) in February 2008 from Bhopal to Delhi, for Movement to Achieve the ST status of Madhya Pradesh Gurjers.
The Gurjar leaders declare not to celebrate this Black Dipawali in this year community lost 26 gurjers.
They criticized congress and BJP for custom of two super Queens Sonia Gandhi and Vasundhara raje of respective parties on death of Gurjers during agitation in Rajasthan, The parties which shed tears on death of prosperous persons Dog didn’t attended Rajasthan gurjers even after death.
According to Dainik navjyoti news 3 nov the main leaders of gurjar Arakshan sangharsh samiti Rajasthan Col Bainsla
made warning to govt. if government not gave attention to their demands of reservation of ST Status to Gurjers they will extort(take possession) it. They made a appeal to fight for their community rights, and said we will remain united, the day when we will achieve our demands will be not so far. In every state their will be gurjar chief minister and home minister if we are politically active. He astonished on not to be a minister in the centre from the Gurjar community and call the community to provide good education for their children and make them able to hold on official holdings of high rank, (KHOOB PADHO AUR AGE BADHO). Col Bainsla said that it was his aspiration to achieve complete ST Status to Jammu & Kashmir Gurjars, to fight for right of uttara khand gurjars and to achieve ST Status in Rajasthan. Now gurjers are being united and the dream is to be fulfilled.
AKHIL BHARATIA GURJAR SANGHRAS SAMITIES Patron and MLA of Delhi assembly Mr. Ramveer Singh vidhudi
challenged both super queens Sonia and Vasundhara that he wants to see the power in their forces, the fight of reservation will be this end or that end. He demanded establishment of gurjar regiment, construction of monument for martyred (sacrificed) gurjers and to provide service to one family member of them, to provide 15% reservation to the economically backward upper caste to provide reasonable price to peasants for their adopted by government.
MLA Vidhudi said that gurjar community will celebrate this Diwali as black Diwali to express sensitiveness to sacrificed Gurjars. He declared that samajwadi parties President Mulyam Singh yadav, Lok Jan shakti parties Rambilas paswan, chief minister of Bihar Nitish kumar , and Rastriya lok dal president Choudhry Ajit Singh declared favor to Gurjar reservation movement.
The national president of samiti and MLA of Sohana Choudhry Sukhveer Singh Jaunpuria
said that the due respect which should be given to Gurjar community which is 14 crore in India not given by the Government that is the reason why Gurjars are on movement. The Rajasthan government had compelled the Gurjers for agitation. The central govt. should interrupt in this issue. He demanded to help in protection of Gurjar rights belonging to Jammu&Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh and uttarakhand.
Other leaders who addressed the rally were patron of samiti Yashvir Singh, Baba Balvant Singh from Punjab, Ex minister of Maharashtra govt. P.K. Anna Patil,
ex finance minister of Haryana Govt. Katar Singh,
Ex minister of U.P. govt. Virendra Singh
and Ex Home minister Ranjeet judeo,
Ex Inspector general of J&K Govt. Masood Choudhary, and other Gurjar leaders from M.P., Himachal Pradesh, Gujarat also addressed the meeting.
MAIN DEMANDS OF GURJARS-
1. To reserve Gurjar dominant areas for election
2. Establishment of Gurjar regiment.
3. Establishment of Gurjari language as in 8th schedule of constitution.
4. To provide the Gurjers appropriate share in politics.
5. To remove the cases filed against innocent Gurjar during agitation.
By rambilassingh@yahoo.com
Phone no 09314180633,09929773099
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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Nov 4, 2007 21:55:34 GMT -5
New from> headlines India .com According to Kirti sood Reporter Saturday, November 03, 2007 (20:45:17)
Gurjars assemble to restate demands
New Delhi: Ramlila Maidan in the Capital witnessed the coming together of Gurjar community on Saturday with the purpose of making their demands heard. Gurjars from all over India gathered in New Delhi hailing their demand to classify them as a schedule tribe. Over one lakh people, gathered among political leaders and hoard of media persons, were trying to revive the old promises of Bhartiya Janta Party (BJP) government in Rajasthan. At the same time, the Gurjar community commemorated those who died in May 2007 agitation between Gurjars and the Rajasthan police authorities. Sukhbir Singh Jaunpuriya, National President, Akhil Bhartiya Gurjar Sangharsh Samiti, boasted of Gurjar community during the rally. "There are large number of people moving in to Delhi to support our mission of giving Rajasthan's Gurjars their right and other Gurjars their due respect," he said. "The monumental number of Gurjars coming in have created traffic jams on Delhi roads. Gurjar community does not get the respect it deserves. It is a community that has been existent since a very long time and has preserved its originality. Rajasthan's government has forced us to come out on the streets. We want Rajasthan's Gurjars to get their ST classification and we want Gurjars from all over nation to get respect." Jaunpuriya stated that it is high-time when government should take action in this regard and meet the demands of Gurjar community. "The situation has gone to the extent that I had to go to various districts asking people to come together against government's easygoing nature. Until we scare these political parties, we will not get our share of respect." A former minister of Uttar Pradesh government, Mahendra Singh, also took the opportunity to criticize government's response for the whole issue. "Today there was need in Delhi to call people from different states. Rajasthan's Gurjars have been demanding the status of schedule tribe for a long time now. When on May 29, 2007 several people from Gurjar community were mercilessly killed, their bodies remained on the street for days and nobody paid attention. Usually Sonia Gandhi takes off in her helicopter at 7 in the morning to attend to various issues and so does Mayawati, but at that time no one came. We need to unite as one community to get our rights."
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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Nov 4, 2007 21:57:39 GMT -5
NEWS FROM ZEE NEWS.COM
Nationwide stir if Gurjars fail to get ST status: Bainsala New Delhi, Nov 03: Serving an ultimatum to the Centre and the Vasundhra Raje government in Rajasthan, the All India Gujjar Sangarsh Samiti today threatened to launch a nationwide agitation if their community is not granted Scheduled Tribe status.
Addressing a massive rally here, prominent Gurjar leader Kirori Lal Bainsala said that the community has been demanding ST status since the last six months but in vain.
Though he expressed satisfaction with the functioning of Justice Chopra Committee set up to look into the issue, Bainsala said that if their demands were met by December 15, they would intensify their agitation.
"The Justice Chopra Committee set up to look into the issue has completed seventy five percent work. We are satisfied with its functioning.
"The way the panel has been visiting every home in the nook and corner of the state to ascertain the status of the Gurjars is satisfactory," he said.
"The panel would submit its recommendations to the Rajasthan government by December 15," he said, adding the onus would then be on the state government to forward the report to the Centre.
The Gurjar leader parried a query whether the reservation issue would form a part of the poll planks in the state where elections are due next year.
"I am not a politician. I have no clue what will be the issues during the elections. But I am fully sure that the Gurjars will get tribal status on the basis of the Chopra Committee report," he said.
Replying to a question about reported dissension among Gurjar community members, Bainsala said, "it (the community) is one and would remain one and welfare of every member is of prime concern".
The Gurjar leader said his main effort was to unite the community and bring them in the mainstream to ensure their uplift.
Echoing similar views, NCP MLA and Gurjar leader Rambeer Singh Bidhuri said the massive rally demonstrated the feelings of the community seeking tribal status.
Speakers at the rally passed a resolution demanding setting up of Gurjar regiments in the Indian Army and compensation at the market rate to the farmers whose land has been acquired for development among other things.
The rally, organised by the All India Gurjar Arakashan Sangarsh Samiti and attended by thousands of Gurjars from across the country, turned out to be show of strength and unity in support of Bainsala even though leaders like Atar Singh Badhana and Parlhad Gunjal stayed away from the event.
Bureau Report
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Post by Virendra Gurjar on Nov 5, 2007 6:10:50 GMT -5
Dr saab ek baat bataiye ki kya rally ke liye Shoaib akhtar bhi invited tha ,kuch logon ne mujhe bataya tha
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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Nov 6, 2007 6:13:33 GMT -5
Dear virendraGurjar, every gurjar was invited in rally,so may be shohaib also,But i dont know exactly as some body told you he may be right. I think you are fond of cricket,Good luck,Try for this may u achieve this status.
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Post by Virendra Gurjar on Nov 8, 2007 2:45:59 GMT -5
Is diwali par rajasthan ke shahid gurjaron ko avashya yaad rakhe aur kasam khaye ki hum unke balidaan ko zayar nahi jane denge
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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Nov 8, 2007 8:31:11 GMT -5
Happy Deepaawali to All Gurjar brothers.
but don't forget Sacrifice of our Rajasthani brother.
Wishing you and your Family with all Near and Dears Happy l Diwali Yours Dr rambilassingh Gurjar Email Rambilassingh@yahoo.com
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Post by Dr rambilas singh Gurjar on Nov 9, 2007 10:52:51 GMT -5
Deepawali& Importance of wealth in Indian perspective
Dear brothers Happy Deepawali Religious importance of Deepawali
Deepawali is celebrated in Most of north India as five days festival in the last three days of the month of Ashwayuja and the first two days of the new month of Kartika
1. Dhan-trayodashi or Dhan teras: Dhan means "wealth" and Trayodashi means "13th day of lunar month". It is an auspicious day for shopping. it is believed the day of health ,on the name of Dhanvantari Bhagwan(the god of health) 2. Naraka Chaturdasi .Kali Chaudas, on 14th day of lunar month. Named Due to killing of Narakasura (who was evil demon) by Lord Krishna's wife Sathyabhama. This happened in the Dwapara Yuga during this time of Lord Krishna's avatar. According to another story, the demon was killed by Lord Krishna himself. 3. Deepawali, the main event .The day of Lakshmi-Pooja falls on the dark night of Amavasya. When total darkness is there in night sky. Fireworks are associated with the festival in many regions of India. Hindu celebrates the return of Lord Rama, King of Ayodhya, with his wife Sita and brother Lakshmana to Ayodhya from a war in which he killed the demon king Ravana.
It is believed that on this day Laxmi walks through the green fields and showers her blessings on man for plenty and prosperity. It is extremely important to keep the house spotlessly clean and pure on Deepawali. Goddess Laxmi likes cleanliness, and she will visit the cleanest house first. This is also the reason why the broom is worshiped on this day with offerings of haldi and kumkum Lamps are lighted in the evening to welcome the goddess. They are believed to light up her path. On the day many wear new clothes, share sweets and light firecrackers. The North Indian business community usually starts their financial new year on Day and new account books are opened. 4. Varsha-pratipada or Padwa: Bestu Varas: Beginning of the New Year (Kartikadi Vikram). Pratipada means the first 5. Bhayiduj (also Bhayyaduj, Bhai Bij, Bhai Phota, Bhaubeej or Bhayitika) on this day, brothers and sisters meet to express their love and affection for each other.
Economic importance of Deepawali
Deepawali is an annual stimulus for the Indian economy. Indians purchase gold, gifts, decorations, crackers (fireworks) and household appliances during this festival and many Indian films are released during this period. Companies offer huge discounts during the Deepawali season to attract customers, which helps the economy Deepawali also brings tourists to the country. Also, schools in India are closed during this festival, and many young people have the free time and the money to spend on luxury items Deepawali is the festival of importance of Laxmi Ancient Indians society respected the wealth which was earned by morality that provided integrity, unity and progress of all society, and not harmed to anybody. On this festival help is provided to the poor. Food and sweets are distributed as acts of charity the underprivileged are also helped providing cloths and other needs.
Importance of wealth in Indian perspective
Every person who desires for spiritual development has to fulfill all his material desires (by Wealth) and even his needs in order that he may achieve his final destination –Dharma, Artha, Kam, Moksha To day Indians are emerging again as number one in world’s economy. You must have read the news month of April
LONDON, April 3 (UPI) on Forbes magazine estimated Mittal was the third richest man in the world, after Microsoft's Bill Gates and investment manager Warren Buffet. There are as many as 27 NRIs listed among the 1,000 people on the 'The Sunday Times Rich List 2005', revealed today, with the Hindujas - S P and G P Hinduja, Chairman and President respectively of the Hinduja Group - being the 13th richest in Britain with assets worth 2.1 billion pounds.
Refrence>Lakshmi Mittal, NRI steel tycoon richest in Europe
]Then Next news of October (October 29th, 2007The Business Standard reports) that billionaire Mukesh Ambani today became the richest person in the world, surpassing Carlos Slim Helu, Bill Gates, and Warren Buffett due to a strong bull run in the Indian stock markets that led to a share price rally on his group companies (Reliance Industries, Reliance Petroleum and Reliance Industrial Infrastructure) and boosted his net worth to $63.2 billion. They compare the 5 most richest persons the world by net worth 1. Mukesh Ambani ($63.2 billion) 2. Carlos Slim Helu ($62.2993 billion) 3. William (Bill) Gates ($62.29 billion)
Refrence>Mukesh Ambani Now Richest Person in the World!
The society is going to be enriched far more by people rich in experience and knowledge than by the people who are rich only in terms of money. Yet, in a materialistic (one who believes that money possession and physical comforts are more important than moral life) society, the wealthy are respected and admired and the people with experience and knowledge are forced to become subservient (Too willing to obey rich).if the service providing peoples are measured in terms of wealth then they will degrade their morality and will move toward corruption, which may lead to destruction of true values of society.
There is a well known shloka (verse) in Sanskrit literature which says, "Old people, rich in age and experience, and wise people, rich in knowledge and learning, all become servants of wealthy people". Money is becoming the driving force and the society is going to be destroyed.
Western people with a materialistic outlook give excessive importance to money. They believe that one may not have anything else, but one must have money. Such thinking ultimately drives the whole society towards destruction. Everywhere, one finds these "people with the goggles of gold" i.e. the people who see everything in terms of money and only money. By attaching excessive value to wealth, morality and integrity disappear from society and corruption takes their place.
What is the Cause of corruption? People complain that the government workers have become corrupt and take Rishwat (bribes). But, these people are also part of society according to general thinking the truthful, honest and moral people, rich people get more respect in society then the collection of money by any means which may be by moral or immoral means becomes prime importance. In that case, why would people be hesitant to indulge in corruption, smuggling and black market? Today everything is measured in terms of money. For example, we consider hearings in high court. Where In different court rooms, different case are in progress.
Room no. 1 an accused of Car accident, who by his negligent behavior, during driving as alcoholic intoxicated condition made accident. The lawyer of the deceased (died) demands some thousand of Rupees for relatives as compensation in court trial. The Car owner agrees and the case is settled. Now the alcoholic negligent man is released to repeat another incident
Room no 2.An individual is accused of assaulting a civilian in rage. The charge is going to be proved, then the accused offers sufficient money to victim (injured) the victim agrees and settlement of case is made. The rage and assault is excused by money Room no 3. A rape case is on trial the victim girl is offered money by the accused she deny for it ,now the accused who has offered bribe to magistrate wins the case. Now the rapist is free in society
Room no4.A Case is on trial against the owner of the soap who sold poisonous liquor (whiskey) and five persons died after drinking it. The owner of whiskey shop offers money for compensation for the relatives of deceased, the case is settled. Now he is allowed to continue his business.
Room no 5.a case is on trial against an owner of Gambling House and Brothel (prostitution house) the owner provides bribe to the Public prosecutor and witnesses. And get released on the basis of ‘benefit of doubts’. Now he is allowed to repeat same.
Observe some scene of police station
1. A civilian assaulted by some bullies who are sheltered by capitalist of the city, the police knows the bullies by name and gets monthly charges from capitalists, on filing a case by name against the criminals police pressurizes the civilian to register the case against unknown persons, and not refuse to register the case by name, police arrests the innocence persons on basis of fake inquiry. For release of these innocence persons again they receives bribe (rishwat) for release of the innocents. Finally the case reported to be false report in court.
2. A complaint as FIR is made against a Government doctor by a Rich person for negligence (actually he did not provided importance to rich man), Alleging that the doctor did not made attention to his relatives treatment (He was less serious then the other poor patient hence doctor preferred the more attention to more serious as his duty), police makes inquiry in this matter, and although police finds doctor innocent but releases doctor after bribes. This taught doctor the importance of money, now the doctor becomes money extorting commercial person, for future, now he is sure if he made actual negligence the bribes will save him, hence he will prefer those patients who will provide more money and less risk to Doctor. There are many examples of corruption about each professions and business that may lead to degradation of society. For example food products adulteration by grocer, milk adulteration by milkman, this may be health risk to community. The use of cheap quality material in construction of roads, buildings, and in bridge by engineers, may lead to life risk of public. The insensitiveness of doctors to ailments of community again may lead, to bad effect on health of community. The role of police department and judiciary for law and due to corruption its hindrance in achievement of justice can not be ignored.
When the money becomes prime importance of society it becomes devoid of true values the wealth earned by unfair means never provides true piece the society destroys itself within short duration. Let us take a more recent example. France was a totally money minded peoples country. People from all over the world used to go to France for pleasures and enjoyment. In the Second World War, France fell in just seven days. Another best example in history is Golden Lanka with strongest king which was wealthiest but due to lake of morality destroyed soon. while the Ayodhya king Shri Ram who during the vanvaas (dwelling in forest) without help of money and ruling power defeated the evil king Ravana ,this represent the power of morality over wealth. Now, the question is, should money not be earned at all? Is wealth evil?
The earning money, itself is not evil. But the extreme crave towards money earning when gets importance over morality, and the extra importance to the persons who earned wealth by any of the immoral means, is dangerous. The immoral means of earning money should be disregarded.Othewise according to matsyanyay (concept given by Bhismapitamah in Mahabharata period where smaller fish is food of bigger fish) every body is poor in comparative to rich person and one day the richest person which may be immoral also may treat the whole world as a slave. ‘ For the sake of society and whole world the money earned by morality should get prime importance’ By Dr Rambilassingh Gurjar
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