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Post by Manvinder Adhana on Sept 3, 2006 16:45:17 GMT -5
Please post your vote and support your views with solid reasons.
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Post by Pankaj Kohli on Sept 4, 2006 1:12:57 GMT -5
Reservation in job should be merit based only not even economy based. But i strongly favour reservation in education on caste and economy basis. Everybody should be given chance to exceed but for Nation's sake fittest person should be in serving position. Since it directly affects whole nation.
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Post by Rajesh Jindher on Sept 4, 2006 5:43:13 GMT -5
Respected Pankaj ji
I am agree with u that reservation in job should be on merit based but it also reality that if we have an tag of ST/OBC than why dont we benefited with them. If job eually for all then every cast should be in General Category no body should be SC/ST/OBC.
Regards
Rajesh Choudhary
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Post by Pankaj Kohli on Sept 4, 2006 8:14:31 GMT -5
I meant that only. No SC, ST or OBC, all in general category. I know its not going to be but this simple conveys my viewpoint. Practically, reservation will be there in jobs and we are supposed benefit out of it.
Regards
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Post by abhati on Sept 4, 2006 8:33:14 GMT -5
it doesn't make any difference for us, because we come under OBC category and no body asks for it. it's only SC/ST who are taking benefit from it and they will.
if ur SC/ST the you will be given the previlage otherwise, nope!
Anju Bhati (ab)
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Post by Manvinder Adhana on Sept 5, 2006 19:27:34 GMT -5
Hi anju
It's not like that.We must become capable to gain some benefits from new OBC kota.Otherwise you will see lot of yadav and jats in IIT's and IIM's.These two castes are taking the maximum benefit from OBC kota.I have personally seen it.
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Post by vishaltonger on Sept 6, 2006 0:09:45 GMT -5
You are absolutely right manvi, yadavs are the one gaining most, jats are not OBC at center level yes but rajasthan jats only are. personally i feel that since reservation is given we should use it for our benefit. Reservation at education level is good but at job level its better bcs no job will lead to frustration and will again lead to moving away from education.Hence its good that govt is applying it now lets make most of it.
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Post by Rajesh Jindher on Sept 13, 2006 6:09:02 GMT -5
Dear all gurjars
I think we are going on wrong direction becouse We shoud do our work and we shouldn't care about our community. There is no matter weather we are in OBC, ST or SC always try to do our duty and takecare of our people.
Regards
Rajesh Choudhary
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Post by vishaltonger on Sept 13, 2006 23:39:32 GMT -5
Dear Rajesh, You are absulutely right. it's absurd to talk about reservation right now actually we are not in wrong direction but very much ahead of what we r suppose to do. What will this reservation do if only handful of gurjars study. There has to be person enough qualified to avail the benefit. I said in my last article what ever you do for community but if after so much effort they won't get job then every thing will go waste. Hence we have to be ready with every thing in hand whether its our point on reservation or bringing gurjars in ST etc...Try to talk to person of any community not only gurjars the parents say "kya karenge pada ke naukri tu milni nahin" therfore we have to see that also.
still any doubt free to mail me.
Vishal
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Post by engposwal on Sept 16, 2006 7:41:30 GMT -5
hello, everybody i'm strongly against any reservation based on caste whether it is in jobs or in educational institutes. basically this caste reservation was imlemented for upliftment of backward classes. but the upliftment which was to be taken place has taken place in this past 55 years. still if u'll look to the reserved classes ,their reacher lot is taking benifit of it and poor remains poor. can u think that a person of kalbeliya caste will appear for IAS exam ,no. and is it not that unreserved class people r not poor. so in my opinion reservation should be on ECONOMICAL basis. that's why educated lot in india is against the recently announced reservation whether they r in class to be benifitted. 2-3 months ago there was meeting of gurjars in our dausa district in which sachin pilot was also there they also emphasised on reservation , in my opinion our caste's history is not that bad to include us in betn. sc & obc. but yes we can demand reservation on economic basis as really we r lacking in that. for e.g. in our district there is only one IAS. so i strongly recommend that caste based reservation is a great hindrance in the progress of our country.
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Post by vishaltonger on Sept 17, 2006 23:26:27 GMT -5
Dear Poswal,
you must be well read, i fully accept that in India poor needs attention but do you think at the time of independence our country was so rich that the constitution makers didnot see that they were strongly against economic reservation.pls read my previous article in which i have explaine d why reservation cocept was introduced in so diverse country like india. You are talking about one IAS in your district in whole country we have just 2 IAS. So i will strongly advice you to read first and then your self see what is needed and what is not needed.
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Post by vineet mandhar on Oct 25, 2006 13:27:53 GMT -5
hii to all,
reservation should be there...as it is benificial for our community...as in our community, people just hav to think of by themselves what 2 do, and how 2 do...resorces are scarce...i think its better 4 the community to be strong in all ways...
bye
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Post by manoj_gurjar2005 on Oct 27, 2006 1:40:51 GMT -5
All dear gurjars
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Post by omveernagar on Jun 1, 2007 5:09:41 GMT -5
Reservation is very important to Gurjar because we are the most effected people during the slavery . If we are asking reservation in Rajasthan State I think it is need of our people.
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Post by Anshia on Nov 2, 2007 0:26:30 GMT -5
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It's even more of a shame when so called authorities perpetuate racism and behave racistly and enforce racist policies and behaviour through intimidating means amidst outer sweet and polite talks. Racism seems to be prominent among so called white people in rich countries who cannot bear non-whites from other countries of origin. Planet Earth belongs to people of Earth. Highly educated people of high intellectual calibres, rich bosses and CEOs, etc, of rich countries are a blotch on humanity and their material levels when they haven't yet evolved to basic human concepts of all humans have red blood irrespective of race. Racism stems from social attitudes that are perpetuated by racist societies, the media, the authoritarians, and the peers. It's time to say, shame on all those who perpetuate racism and racist attitudes. Thank you.
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