Education Awareness

[Manvinder Adhana]

Hi friends

I am adding this new board in the website forum.The aim of this board is to guide the young gurjars in their education and development.This section will help 12th pass out,undergraduate students and post-graduate gurjar students who are unable to decide what to do next.

All queries related to different courses and different fields could be discussed in this section.Moreover, you could also discuss other education and development issues.

We have some really intelligent and industry experienced community members here on the site who will surely guide you in all your eduaction related problems.


thanks and regards
manvinder adhana

[Pankaj Kohli]

hi
Gurjars genes have built in intelligence and leadership. Our people are and could be really dynamic managers. I invite all intelect members of site to share their views on how to direct our new generation towards grabbing a large number of management posts in every domain.

One hinderance i look towards is lack of english language skills. It should be acquired in the earliest possible stage of education. It open doors to vast resources of information and also helps in boosting self confidence. Most of our talented individuals lag behind for this only.
I suggest that all our existing gurjar organization and establishments should run language improvement programs for middle/secondary level students free of cost. It will not cost much only initiative is required. Most of our gurjars bhawans/colleges/schools have infrastructure to support this.

Regards

[Bhupender Singh]

Hi Friends,

I think Pankaj has hit the nail on its head. We don't need complicated solutions to help our community. A simple English language program can prove to be immensly beneficial for our community. This has become more relevant given the opportunities that IT enabled sector has opened to youths of india. Today ITES/Call Center/BPO is one of the largest and fastest growing sectors.

Today lesser educated and non-deserving, english speaking boys and girls take home handsome salaries while our deserving boys and girls are handicapped due to lack english speaking capability.

I think this definitely should be a priority area for all gurjar community development programs. Be it our Management Graduates, Engineers, Simple Graduates or students seeking admissions in top grade schools/colleges all of them stand to benefit from such initiatives. We definitely have the resources to run such programs lets all do our bit for the same.

Regards,
Bhupender

[Damodar Khatana]

Dear all,

the issue ragarding English courses n classes is good enough, but see the problem is that we are unable to produce even graduates (leave aside how many of them can speak english fluently). so i think the primary need is to guide them just after 12th to enagae in some technical course or other courses which can help them in getting the job.

what do u think what fraction of yong generation is graduated in science or technical field?? engineering education n other technical education natural makes fluent in english. so we probably need to help the young generation in very early stage....the mind becomes too lazy after a certain age to learn a language.

with love,

Damodar Khatana

[shafiq]

Right,

Me is agree that if our new generation knows english. They can compete. And also this is the most easiest way to grow up and serve the community as well..

Allah Hafiz

[Rajesh Jindher]

Dear friends

I dont know what is compulsory and what is not but I personally feel that our community is too much behind that other cast. It is necessary to educate our childern because our cast not much educated people.

With regards

Rajesh Jindher
Chandigarh.

[raghuveerbainsla]

hi friends

" the issu regarding english "
dear friends english is not main issu it can be solve very easily but the main issu is education. anybody can speak good english after the four and five month exercise.english language can not solve probelum.

education is the main issu without the education progress is impossible.language is the way of communication. you can take any language english,french,spanish,german,hindi,italian or sanskrit they all of use for the communication. but for the dovlopment the education is base and complesury if we are well educated the englisg being so and so easy.so education is complesury
so we take the education very seriously everyone language depend on education

thanks

Raghuveer singh

[Damodar Khatana]

I agree that learning english is just not possible by counselling sessons. we can learn any language if we are living in the community where people used to talk in that languagae.

Also, learning english only will not help in the development of society. so I support the views of Raghuvir, that education is primary aim. n if people are graduating from nice schools, then English is not a concern. they will be capable of doing good...

with love,

DSK

[Pankaj Kohli]

hi
i think we all are under strong misconception that gurjars don't have enough educated people. Why most of us are projecting gurjars as a less educated, deprived community. We are EDUCATED and PROGRESSIVE people. We need opportunities and proper direction. Look around and you will find a considerably good number of unemployed, pathless graduates. First we should think of them.

Regarding issue of english, to be educated we need a effective medium through which information (or say knowledge) can flow. And practically most of the knowledgebases are available in english only whether it's books, or internet or good schools.
And early induction of a universal language helps in building up confidence also.
Learning a language is not a matter of few months. I agree with Damodar that it requires an environment to learn english.
Moreover admission to good schools is on the basis of interviews. So that too requires command over language.

regards

[Damodar Khatana]

dear all,

we r no way in any kind of misconception my dear..u can survey in our country n just count the Gurjar graduates, then only u can believe.

can u tell me dear Pankaj..how exactly u can made people learn any language..
counselling session may work for those who are already doing good like graduating from good schools but do not have fluency in english....

how do you think we learn a language..by repetitive use, by living in the community where people use that language...by reading matter in that language..by watching movies in that language, by studing from english medium schools and so on...

only way which seems to me is that open some nice english medium schools......

with love,

DSK

[Bhupender Singh]

Dear Friends,

As usual we are getting into a unnecessary debate here over English.

Firstly, In my opinion, Pankaj brought out a very sound idea of initiating a english language learning program. I don't think there is any disagreement on the fact that it is definitely beneficial for the members of our community who lack this skill.

Secondly. If there are any other programs that the members would like to suggest on the education front. Please put forward your ideas. We all are in agreement that whatever be the strength of our educated youth, we still need to travel a long way. We are no where near the end of road.

Thirdly, Lets back our ideas with implementation plans. What, where and How? I am sure most of us would like to see people taking initiative. Do we have any one raising up his hand and saying this is what i intend to do and in this manner?

Not all of us would be at hand to take such intiatives but would definitely love to support someone who does so.

Regards
Bhupender

[ravindertanwar]

Hi All,

I think its easy to learn English but not to speak.
We hardly have environment where you can perfect your spoken English.

So
1) Let kids speak in English from the day he/she goes to school.

2) I just can say that I followed the following path

a)Primary Education from Delhi Govt School (Hindi Medium)
b)Sixth onwords I went to Sainik School Kunjpura Karnal and passed my 12 th in 2000.

English became I disagreeet.

c)Did my BCA from DAV Centanary College Faridabad.

My reasoning, and convincing ability was I disagreeet

d) Did my MCA from Amity School Computer Sciences.

My problem solving attitude and good communication skill I inculcated.

Now) I am at Sapient Corporation Ltd. As Software Engineer.
An MNC(Multi National Company From America).This is 2nd best company of India where people love to work
(see business world Feb2006 edition).
And I think this is the height for a fresher.

I think this can be one the best line to follow by kids.

but to reach here one need two things.
1) Excellent communication skills
2) Excellent Problem Solving Ability.


Another can be:-

12th with science side and join NDA.

Another can be:-

12th with Physics and 60% in PCM and join Merchant Navy

I thought above three things for me and Achieved 1st one.

Although after 12th doing LLB and then becoming advocate is also good as my younger brother is doing so .
But again if one doesnt have good English no use take this line other wise you'll be an ordinary lawyer.

So English rules the world today.
And Dear Manvender will agree with me.

Thanks

Yours
Ravinder Partap Singh Tanwar

[narendra08jul]

nice step manvindra..
really u r the one who is putting real effort to make this site succesful..
even u have put a very nice topic..

[Rajesh Jindher]

Dear all gurjars

I am agree with Ravinder Tanwar that we should start learning english our childern from when they started to go to school and start chating with them in english so which we not found our childern can found that and become sucessful in life. If Rout will become powerful of our childern then they will surely succeed in life.

regards

Rajesh Choudhary

[ravindertanwar]

English is required for the development of any individual or society in India today.

After reading so many views against and for the English I put forward my views with an current instance.

Today in India we hardly have any Govt job left almost everything is privatised or going to be privatised. Today India worlds one of the most flourishing economy due to the fact that
We are getting jobs outsourced from western countries like USA and England.

What makes India most eligible for those jobs.

1) Time:- On the time line India lies at a place where its almost opposite to US. When its Night there we get up to work and there work is always on through out the clock.

2) English:- India is one English speaking country.(now a days I hardly see any form to be filled in Hindi or any other Indian language.) People here are good resource who can work for western countries in the fields of Telecommunication, IT etc.

3) Cheap Labour:- Ofcourse people working here are paid lesser amount than the people working at onshore. (Because of value difference in Rs and Dollar).

We Gurjar here share the two things with rest of India 1) Time 2) Cheap Labour.
But not English.

Here comes the importance of English.

Ofcourse if you want to open some Travel agency, you dont need that much English(sure to some extant). But if you want to become Doctor, Engineer, IT professional, Lawyer and you dont know English its very hard to survive.

I see my friends who are not able to get jobs dispite their sound knowlege and required degree, Just because they are not good in spoken English(well they can read and write good english). Here most of our Gurjars our not in better condition, most of us still lack the reading and writing skills in this language.

I agree we can still do great work with English but certainly we can not run a race with the time. Today the time is of International language. Even China is hellbent to learn English so that it can gain the outsourced work for its large population.

Still we dont agree with the world and say that English is not the major problem. Where as I think if you are educated and you are not English speaking (fluent) than you are handicapped. You can not move faster in your carrier.
And I hope most of my educated brothers and sisters who either seeking jobs in the modern world industry or already their, agree with me.

Therefore I am strongly in favour of English(ofcourse we shouldnt forget our mother tounge Gujjari).
Any question or discussion again English is Welcome. I'll try to answer and convice.

Thanks
With Regards
Gurjar Ravinder Partap