reconversion to mother faith of our muslim gujjars

[sandeep singh]

It is a very important topic for discussion and the need of this community,,need of time to get united once again...each great community faces its golden and worst days..gujjars have seen its golden days in history of "gurjarardesh" but time got changed beacause its the rule of nature... of world...but its our duty to wake up from nap and to take necessary steps in favour of our community but here our situation is quite diffrent...our great ancessters gave us too rich haritage but we got failed to save their pride we are following their enemmies... i strongly believe that all the hindus who made muslims in time of moughals they must accept now their motherfaith...the main reasons are:-

1-what i saw in muslim gujjars..in present days thier cultures hv changed highly frm their hindu counterparts...islam does not allow us to preserve our thousand years old culture and priceless traditions..our concepts...islam allows to marry with close relatives..cousins, nephew...but still in hindu guajjars they avoid thier own gotra..mother gotra..grandmother gotra..all ppl in these gotra are considerd as brother/sister...even muslim gujjars of doab (area between ganga and yamuna)still practice this...it shows our rich culture and gotra is one of the most imp concepts of gujjarism.

2-i realised islam is highly diffrent in theory and practice..they say that second name of islam is peace ..but what about most of the muslim countries..fundamentalism is the biggest weekness of islam once u get islam (no matter forcibely or by own choice) u also become a fundamentalist thats why even pakistani gujjars says "we are first muslim then pakistani then gujjars" the reason..cuz being a gujjar they don't have a diffrent identity now....its unbelievable even gujjars are not ready to accept their motherfaith and to save pride of their ancestors who sacrified for gurjarism.
3-the most important reason is dat the ancesstors of all muslim gujjars were coverted forcibly..not a single gujjar choosed islam by own choice because gujjars were the biggest enemise of islam and saviour of hinduism..in the time of moughals all the gujjars were converted...gujjar kids were murdered...womens were raped...they tried to destroy our hundred years old heritage...(temple of somnath of gujarat was made by gujjar kings destroyed by ghazni) there are a lot of examples..mina gujjri is an example... family of rana ali hasan chauhan is a example in itself...here a lot of familes are example....but also a lot of gujjars converted back to hinduism after some time....many muslim gujjars of saharanpur became sikhs at the time of aurangjeb...gujjars reppeled arabs for hundred of years now if gujjars don't have confidence and power of soul to go back to their mothers faith...they are fullfilling the dreams of moughals and arab invaders...its all the conclusion..if they dont have power to take decision in the favour of thier ancestors..i.e.. kanishk,samrat mihirbhoj mahan ,nagbhatt, prithviraj chauhan....against mullahs...then v shud say they have lost their psyche in islam.. v cant say about muslim jats rajputs etc..but evn gujjars must be so powerfull so that they can defeat these islamic fundamentalists mullahs..if they can not save save the pride of sacrifications of thier great ancesstors they should stop call themselves gujjars..they are not gujjars anymore...infact a people who is still following the religion of babar and aurngjeb definately can not be a gujjar...because these were the same people who murdered and raped our ancessters....one who defames his/her ancestors, what religion can be of him/her ??? he is not a hindu neither musalman..they have been stucked in trap of islamic players.

4-its not the first time in 7th centuries gujjars were converted into islam by arab invaders at a large scale but at that time all these gujjars had reconverted back to hinduism by devalacharya at mountain abu (a very important historical place of gujjar pratihars in rajasthan that time gurjardesh). but i don't know who will wake them up. i request to all them wake up now.

5-i read on a blog some people of poor mentality are saying that muslim invaders were no better human beings but as they were muslim so they were fearless...if it is so then why muslims are not going europe and US to convert them in islam..i want to tell them that most of the historians appreciate gujjar pratihars who reppeled arabs for hundred of years and terribly defeted them each time otherwise india mus hv been a muslim country before centuries ....it waz only the partition of pratihar kingdome made main reason for arabs to get entry. such kind mentality just shows these people dont have their own mind they are just following..this is the blindness of mind when people don't use their own brain they just follow..islam is making them blind.

6-it waz also islam who divided india...hindustan wchich was the motherland of gujjars even being a muslim they had lost thier love with thier motherland and demanded for a separate islamic country...can it be a religion who take them away from thier brothers thier motherland. now lets just see hw big heart they have as they are muslims...at the time of partition there were 27% hindus and now they are 2%...theoritically they say that islam means peace and hindus are safe in pakistan. it just cowerdness who makes them to attack on minorities...kidnapping of hindu girls..rapping..converting into islam are the common news reated to hindus of pakistan. i don't think gujjars should follow such a religeon of filthy foriegners and must come back to their mother faith.. i realised that followers of islam stay in imaginations..they don't wanna face truth..our ancessters were not so fool that evn they cud not understand which religion they have to follow...y dint they choosed islam ever by their own choice...allways they were forced by sword.

8-one more important reason its true gujjars have been divided into two diffrent things...they are not one now...because even they cant make relations..if u'll think deeply u will find its pathetic. if we were one in present scenario who could stop us to be the most powerfull community of subcontinental. these are the reasons thats why media says a women mukhtar mai of "lower caste" gujjar in pakistan has raped. itz still not possible in india no one dare to even think..anything like dis about gujjars...i know gujjars are not so week there also but here in hinduism they have their pride and know well how to save it.

7-all the hindu and muslim gujjars are invited on this topic for an open discussion i saw many bros don't like to say anything on such topics...so please come and share ur views frankly..

[kg]

well said yaar , thanks

[Habib ur Rehman gujjar]

Dear sandeep singh g main ak gujjar hon aur mujay is par fakhr hay lakin is k sath sath main ak muslim b hon jis tarha ap nay mughal ruler ka zikar kia k unhon nay gujjars k sath j kuch kia us k bawajood gujjar aj un k mazhab yani islam ko mantay hain to sab say pehli bat to ye hay k islam mughal ruler ka banaya hoa deen nahi hay balkeh ye MUHAMMAD ARABI SAW ka laya hoa deen hay aur is par hamain fakhar hay islam aman ka mazhab hay islam kisi ko kisi par zulm karnay ki ijazat nahi deta agar koi muslim asa karta hay to wo islam k khilaf karta hay is main islam ka koi kasoor nahi ISLAm aurat ki izat karna sikhata hay aur jo rape karta hay us ki saza ak dardnaak mout ki surat main ISLAM main moujood hay rape to door ki bat hay islam to kehta hay ki jab koi aurat guzar rahi ho to mard ko chaye k apni ankh neechi kar lay aur us ki taraf ankh na uthaye. doosri bat ye hay k islam main fundamentalism ki koi gunjaish nahi hay balke islam k baray nain jo ap ki maloomat hain wo bilkul ghalat hain Islam main kisi par koi zabardasti nahi hay aur na hi islam is bat ki ijazat deta hay k kisi ko us ka mazhab tabdel karnay pr majboor kia jaye.gujjars ko kisi nay zabardast muslim nahi kia balkeh apni marzi say musalman hoey hain.Islam main nephew k sath shadi ki ijazat nahi hay lakin cousin k sath shadi ki ijazat hay jabkeh hindu mazhab main cousin k sath shadi ki ijazat nahi hay ye culture nahi balkeh mazhab ki bat hay Islam hamain apnay culture say manah nahi karta hamara apna culture aur apni zaban hay jis par hum fakhar kartay hain lakin is k sath sath hamain apnay muslim honay par b fakhar hay

[Muhammed Fouzan Mehlou Gujjar]

wow ! mr sandeep , ur mentality reflects very poor insight into life of muslim gujjars & a naturally imbibed bias against Islam , as last few decades witnessed heavy brainwashing of indians by chaddi waalas !
we are muslims because of the efforts of sufi saints like khawaja Moinuddin chishti (Rehmatullah alai) ! prithvi chauhan tried his best to oppose islam but even his best plans failed against that saint whom poor opressed people loved & accepted as their saviour from the opression of tyrant kings & that old rotten indian caste system wherein brahmans survived as parasites upon other under priveleged sections of society !
It is well said that "Your quality shall be known among your enemies before ever you meet them my friend".
khawaja sahib is remembered as "gareeb nawaaz"
u can understand everything from this title !
shrines of many sufi saints dot the entire landscape of indopak subcontinent ! Im surprised that as per your self concocted narrative gujjars were converted forcibly ! then how did ur ancestors survive the supposed forcible conversion ?? may be they were superheroes??

U know the so called muslim rulers were less concerned about converting people to islam , rather they had other ambitions like amassing huge wealth ,relaxing in their gardens & fulfilling their own desires so many local chieftains helped them !!!!!
If they really did something then this subcontinent would have been a muslim majority by now!!!

moreover , budhism originated in india but its followers are not even the third largest minority here but they exist in sizeable numbers in countries like japan, myanmar, china, thailand, mongolia !!!!

it doesnt matter what religion do we follow ! we are gujjars and are very proud of it ! infact muslim gujjars of J&K are very open minded & learned people ! we follow & honour shariah !

so its my personal request to you & other like minded brethren to say goodbye to dark ages & just kick that brahmanical supermacy concept !

Allah allmighty created races to make recognition easier among people, not to divide them !!!!

[Gujjari Choudhary]

Dear Gujjar brothers,

I found it interesting to read both our Hindu brother and Muslim brothers analysis. What I feel is that self knowledge and awareness of our past glorious history at central asian Indo-Europeans with a pagan religion, followed by Kushan Empire rulers of modern north pakistan whose patronage of Buddhism developed and exported Mahanya Buddhism, Parsees in Afghanistan, Central Asia and western China, to the Hindu Gujjara-Pratihara dynasty as well as Muslim Qajar dynasty in Iran. We can see that we started as one united nation yuezhi as the Chinese called us and took on local influence and religions depending on the Geo-political realities. Our Gujjar nation is vibrant and rich with a pluralistic dimension. We have spread out from a monolithic United fighting army unit to a wide range of subcultures. We should love and respect each other based on common blood and dna rather than attempting to establish superiority over each other. Our original nation had many valuable qualities such as female warriors as well as male and as pioneers of the silk route excellent business skills, tolerance for different religions, culture and approach to life.

[Muslim gujjar]

Lets say for arguments sake we muslim gujjars conveet back to hinduism...you hindus will not accept us because apparently our blood is spoiled due to marrying cousins etc. There will be widespread discrimmination and a 2 tier gujjar society will form ex muslim gujjars and supposed pure hindu gujjars which is a shortfall of hinduism. But remember before gujjars where hindus they were bhuddists...so hinduism does not equate gujjarism. My brother we have gone never to come back...islam does not discriminate and is the truth please look into it and ignore propoganda. It is the truth and our ancestors should have accepted when faci g truth rather than listen ti our egos and pride and resist. I love all gujjars regardless of hindu muslim or sikh. Respect.

[Muslim gujjar]

By the way i am open minded enough and objective / fair enough to recognise sime forced conversions from hindu to muslims did happen. History documents aurangzrb (who was not a good leader or man nor a good example of a muslim) forcefully converting gujjars of himachel pradesh to islam. My fellow muslims can deny all they want, it is a historical fact thats this did simetimes happen. Aurangzeb was a bastard, quite simply no other way to put it. Akbar was far better leader by the way. However, in himachel pradedh hindu gujjars at end of a lost battle when faced with death and dishonouring of women due to islamic concubine system, must have thought whats the point in endless killings - burning our women and then going out fighting to death .....when does it all end?..whats the point?....hindus were fighting a lisibg battle anyway overall..they must have chosen islam rather than death along with the offer of wealth, lands, prestige under mughals and it also preserved their women being dishoboured and whole households dying. They must have caved in. Hindu gujjars say its weakness but by that time resistance was futile anyway as whole of north india was taken more or less, it was over really so some hindu gujjars of himachel pradesh would have given up. Was it weakness, maybe it was. Or was it that some saw the truth of islam, maybe thats truth as well. Also, many were converted by love through sufism dont forget forced conversions were not that common. Maybe some converted for lands and wealth which was offered as rewards..you know the selfish greedy ones amongst us. Maybe it was a mixture. I truely believe what they all realised was that the message of islam is the truth and they should not have resisted in the first place. A true muslim has good behaviour and conduct. Look at our prophet pbuh as an example. Its this whats kept us muslims.

[Muslim gujjar]

May allah forgive me if im wrong about araungzeb. Islam does not allow forced conversions. History can be manipulated by non muslims to malign islam. So maybe no forced conversions occurred otherwise all india could be converted. Historical faxts may not be true facts. Just something to bear in mind to balance the earlier post.

[KHATANA GUJJAR]

You are saying Wrong about the GUJJAR. Our origin from God Shiva. Before 9th century india pakistan Afghanistan are comes under GUJJAR kingdom 👑. In year 1089 Arab attack on GUJJARs and Gujjar (KHATANA, CHAUHAN'S , CHACHI, POSWAL, CHENDLA,BHOJ, PARMAR&MORE)Fight with them but unfortunately GUJJAR lose this battle because GURJARs go with only 45000 army and Arab comes with 3.6 lakhs army with them. arabs do very bad with our mother & sister and sell them in Afghanistan 😠. Then they rap with them &sell .
Gurjars are comes in very critical situation then they forcefully accept Islam because there mother and sister. This is 100 percent real . After prithivi raj CHAUHAN Gujjar listen about this he go to fight with Arab and win .then mostly gurjars are comes back there religion & some not . LAHORE IS ALSO ESTABLISHED BY GURJAR CLAN LOVE SINGH (SON OF RAMA) WE GUJJARS ARE SOME . NOW IN HIMACHAL 42,800 MUSLIM GUJJARS COME BACK TO SANATAN DHARM BECAUSE WE GUJJARS ARE ROOTS OF SANATAN DHARM.