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Post by Manvinder Adhana on Jul 23, 2006 8:35:08 GMT -5
Please post your views with reasons,thanks
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Post by gauravbhati on Jul 23, 2006 13:19:38 GMT -5
hmmm! well it depends see evolution is a gradual process. u cant force it .with power comes responsibilityand if thats missing BANG! hell is let loose.thats what happenin with our people.with all due regards to my gurjar bhais .all i want to say is that they might get all the money by sellin their land and other stuff but to use that money wisely education is very imp .and thats what they need to understand,suddenly so much of money ,so many luxuries etc makes them downplay the imp of education .or u can say that r not ready to thik abt it as they hav all the resources to their disposal .their children see all that money arnd and u can very well guess that ten studies will be the last thin in their mind.
money do bring a lot of evils with it u see
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Post by narendra08jul on Jul 24, 2006 13:44:26 GMT -5
dear manvindra, first of all thnx to make such a nice website u made n putting lots of effort.. now regrding this topic..i would like to say..tht acquiring of land would have given a lot of good result ..if they would utilize the money in a good manner ..but as i observed n sorry to say ..but its a bitter truth tht our people utilize this monely only for showing purpose..to show others tht how they gr8 are..somebody made bunglow ..somebody buy a big car ..n most of people waste their money in wine only..if they would utilize this money to improve their children condition or invest in some good things then they would be in real postion..but they made only show show n show..
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Post by Ashok Harsana on Jul 25, 2006 4:40:52 GMT -5
Hi Gurjars,
The UP govt authorities are acquiring the lan at very low rates (10 to 15 lac per Acre) while the market value is more than 30 to 80 Lac per Acre in Noida & Greater Noida.
This Land will be first acquired and then sold to the builders to develop colonies and they will sell it at the minimum rate of 2 Cr to 5 Cr per Acre or 2000 to 10000 per Sq Yard.
If these poor villagers(90% Gujjars) are given authority to sell their land directly to builders then it can surely improve the their financial position.
Govt should not work as an agent for these greedy builders and colonisers.
Regards
Ashok harsana
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Post by Rajesh Jindher on Jul 25, 2006 5:32:51 GMT -5
Hi all Gurjars,
I am agree with Ashok Harsana that gurjar people should protest against acquired they should try to sold their land directly builders so that they can earn real value of their land and improve their status.
Regards
(Rajesh Choudhary) Chandigarh
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Post by sameer khatana on Jul 27, 2006 7:49:27 GMT -5
Dear Brothers and Sisters of my community, money is a liquid asset and land is a grosser asset. More of intelligence, experience, wisdom and sophistication is required to manage a liquid asset as compared to a grosser asset. If the change from land to cash happens gradually then the acclimatisation happens and the assets are properly managed. But if the change is sudden and enforced then though the nature of assets owned is changed but the attitude of the owner takes time to change. Probably, this is what is happening with our brothers in NCR and the stress, confusion and chaos is due the resistance for this change of ownership of assets. Education has little to do with it. It is basically the primary socialisation which matters. I know Marwaris who are illiterate but they have the skills required to manage money. Thus, it is the whole environment of the social and psychological space where the formative years of a persons existence is spent. Giving the blame to education or britishers or to any other historical disadvantages is over simplification and reductionism.
Love You Sameer Khatana
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Post by kirpal on Aug 25, 2006 2:26:26 GMT -5
Sorry i don't much details about the subject, but i agree with Mr. Harsana. And smae would like convey my Hearty Thanks to Mr. Manvinder 4 doing all this 4 our community. Keep it up!!!
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Post by subhash Naagar on Sept 6, 2006 8:19:40 GMT -5
Well land acquiring in noida is not going to improve our community at all....well it is right that present generation will enjoy of this large amount of money..but the question is what will get the next generation . At present we need only education if we have proper education then in case of acquiring we can improve our community..
subhash
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Post by dsk on Sept 8, 2006 12:02:45 GMT -5
dear all.... i agree with sameer perfectly..they have got a huge amount of money n now do nto know what to do with that...obviusly managing money requires a lot of skill, education n experience of life..
with love
DSK
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Post by gsawana on Sept 10, 2006 6:50:57 GMT -5
Dear all of you
I am from the same area and one of the persons whos land was acquired by the Govt. There is no doubt that market rate should have been given but Noida has generated lot of commercial avenues and jobs . It is not true that people are not aware how to spend or invest compensation money . In some cases it may be true but such cases u can count on finger. The over all income has gone up many a times so is standard of living.
with love G S Awana
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Post by raghuveerbainsla on Sept 15, 2006 6:06:25 GMT -5
dear friends
it is true that all the improvement depend on the land aqur you thing about the history of particular area only30 years before and current situtation are so different it is different matter about the rates low and high
you all can cont the facility after land aquar you see dovolopment after land aquar in noida or any other indusrties area so many govt facility waited and so many oppertutiny waited for the local population image about the non industries area or thease area whos depend on aggriculter whats facelityes avalable here ?
so all the people think about the two area one is industries and second is aggriculter then you give the wright answer
dear indust. area is so good but we are unable to get oppertunity becouse we not capable we are not educated we are backward secend thingh farmer is better then us he is master in their field but we are not anythingh not in indust. or not in farming so thingh deeply and then give answer thanks
raghuveer singh
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Post by krish2222 on Sept 18, 2006 2:37:17 GMT -5
hey yeh to yaar galat hai yaar yeh paise de rahe hai sirf ek sirf ab ke liye aur next generationkya aachar daalegi jab koi zamin nahi hogi to woh kya karenge country mein to job waise hi nahi hai to woh to sab bhooke mar jayenge krish2222[vishal]
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Post by raghuveerbainsla on Sept 20, 2006 5:48:26 GMT -5
dear friends
our country have the lot of land for the agri. land aur govt ye nahi kahti ki jamin bechkar app kar purchage karo aur daaru pieo we can invest our money on right way lekin sab ulta hai hum sub apna aaj jeete hai kal ki koi fikar nahi karta baccho ki padhai ka kisi ko dhyan nahi hai we all invest our money on the extravegent we are not utilise our money Thanks
Raghuveer singh
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Post by anilnaagar on Oct 5, 2006 2:32:21 GMT -5
My dear gurjar brothers,
As is seen in the past, the Land acquired by the Delhi government and before that by the English government from the villages situated in the heart of Delhi, the people got money at the prevailing rates at those times but they lost that amount in the activities of show off. Now, the something is happening in the NOIDA also.
The only reason for that is the lack of education. Not every body could invested that amount wisely.
The only solution to this, as I feel, could be the change in the compensation package of the government. Along with the money, at least a member of the family of the land owners must be given a government job in and around the area where the land is being acquired by the government. Thus, the families would be protected from the unemployment situation which has arisen because of the agricultural land.
The leaders of the area should mobilize a movement for the demand of employment of the local people whose land has been acquired. As you can see the people of Delhi who got handsome amount in lieu of their land long before had lost that money in extravagant expenditure on marriages and other activities. There were literally cases of people faced the starvation due to expending the whole amount received from the government in activities like consummation of liquor etc. It was only later they could realized it could manage to create some type of livelihood on grant of enhanced rates on subsequent appeals.
So, it is more impotent that the people use their money wisely and also the government should give them share in the growth of that area. Development should never be on the cost of the original inhabitants.
thanks
with lot of luv
from
Anil Naagar anilnaagar@gmail.com
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Post by nehrala on Oct 5, 2006 6:34:38 GMT -5
Definately the acquisition improves the economic position of the farmers irrespective of their caste and creed. A small time farmer, having 1 -2 acres of land earns very meagre income from his land. whereas the acquisition of the same land immediately provides of Rs.40-50 lakhs of rupees. So i have no doubt that acquisition of the land improves the economic position of the farmers and such huge amount of money if invested properlly can make the person grow manifold in a span of two three years. The prices of land have notices a steep rise and the person who were able to manage alternative plots in lieu of the land are now millionaires. I appreciate the views expressed by Samir Khatana. His expression is not only philosophical but gives the ground reality.
It is basically sudden income which most people due to lack of education loses very quickly. I think the Government, rather than giving paying compensation in terms of Rupees, should return land equivilent to 25% to 35% of actual land acquired as land. The deveoped land not only offers higher value but also provides alternate source of income.
The peoples who waste their money in flaunt of wealth are the real losers. The solution is again the education and little care of future.
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